Chanting to the choir: The dialogical failure of antithetical climate change blogs

This is a guest post by Jennifer Metcalfe on a paper she just published. The article explored the potential for people commenting underneath two very different, even antithetical, blogs dealing with climate science, to chat about and engage with climate science.

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My paper, Chanting to the choir: the dialogical failure of antithetical climate change blogs, was recently published in the Journal of Science Communication. This paper emerged from one of the chapters in my PhD thesis, Rethinking science communication models in practice, which was accepted at the Australian National University last year.

My motivation for studying two antithetical blogs on climate change science was to look at whether laypeople—those without a scientific background—were engaging in deliberative discussions about the science on blogs. I chose antithetical blogs because I was interested to see if the quality of dialogue was different between those who engaged with the consensus science of climate change (https://www.skepticalscience.com/) versus those who engaged with a blog that denied such science (http://joannenova.com.au/).

I was particularly interested in the dialogue between commenters on such blogsites as this had rarely been studied compared to science blog posts or bloggers. I was interested in dialogue on a publicly controversial issue like climate change because deliberative dialogue is thought to have the potential to bring about democratic change and action, compared to the mere dissemination of information.

Since the publication of my article on 14 April, there’s been some interesting twitter discussions about it. Concern has been expressed in several tweets that I did not comment on the scientific credibility of each of the sites. Related to this, other tweets were concerned that by looking at antithetical climate change blogs, I have been giving false balance or equivalence to the issue in a similar way to how some journalists will give climate scientists and deniers equal space. Other tweets are concerned that I call both John Cook (Skeptical Science blogger) and Joanna Nova ‘science communicators’.

To be frank, I did not expect such reactions to this paper but it’s great that it’s stimulated such discussions and I want to explore each of these concerns.

Firstly, I did not assess the scientific credibility of each of the blog posts nor of the comments made on each post because this was not the purpose of my research. I am not a climate scientist, which means I could not rigorously assess the scientific credibility of the blogposts or comments, even if I wanted to.

However, commenting as a science communication practitioner of more than 30 years, I am very aware that Skeptical Science goes to great lengths to ensure the peer-review credibility of their posts. The site won a prestigious Eureka prize for its excellence in science communication in 2011. The opposite is true for Joanna Nova’s blog site.

I deliberately focussed on the comments rather than the posts. I looked at the comments as contained on each blog site and was not specifically looking to see if Skeptical Science engaged with deniers or if Jo Nova’s site was engaging with those supporting scientific consensus.

And what I found interesting when exploring the dialogue between commenters on both sites, regardless of their scientific credibility, is that they consolidated “their own polarised publics rather than deliberately engaging them in climate change science”. The problem with this, even for a highly credible blog like Skeptical Science, is that the blogsites are not engaging laypeople deliberately in their science. Instead, I found that the dialogue for both sites were dominated by a few vocal commenters, and for Skeptical Science most of these commenters made very technical comments that an average layperson would not understand. I was actually surprised that only rarely did commenters on each site try to influence other commenters to their point of view. I concluded that this was largely because they were already talking with like-minded people.

With regard to the false balance argument: this is a research paper written for a scholarly audience, not a journalistic piece. As a science communicator who also writes popular science articles, I would never give credence or equal weight to anti-science commentary regardless of the topic.

This brings me to the last point about calling someone who denies consensus climate science a ‘science communicator’. Jo Nova is a pseudonym for Joanne Codling who is a graduate from and was a lecturer in the Australian National University’s (ANU) science communication program. Her blog’s About page says: “Before blogging she hosted a children’s TV series on Channel Nine, was a regular keynote speaker, and managed the Shell Questacon Science Circus. She was an associate lecturer in Science Communication at ANU. At one time she helped fundraise for The Australian Greens. Then she grew up.” I certainly don’t regard Jo Nova as a ‘science communicator’, and perhaps I should have made it clearer in my paper that this was her claim rather than mine. However, it’s an interesting point to consider: what do we call lawyers, teachers or doctors who’ve gone bad?

My research for this paper does not claim to speak for all climate science blogs, credible or not. It provides an in-depth exploration of the comments and dialogue on two among many. My research did not aim to promote either of the blogsites examined. But I hope my research adds to our understanding about online dialogue about climate science. From my perspective, we clearly need to find ways other than blogs to engage laypeople in credible climate science which leads to political and individual action.

Image: Thomas Webster: The village choir, Wikimedia Commons

 

 


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128 responses to “Chanting to the choir: The dialogical failure of antithetical climate change blogs”

  1. ...and Then There's Physics Avatar

    Let’s just hope it’s not too late by then.

    Too late for what?

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  2. geoff chambers Avatar

    Dear Ken
    The day you encounter an alien life form, you’re going to have to be bit quicker on the uptake.
    (Or perhaps you have…)

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  3. Thomas Fuller Avatar
    Thomas Fuller

    ATTP, obviously the fault is shared by both sides. It may not be for me to judge which side bears the larger share of responsibility, but obviously I lean towards the consensus side having caused the bulk of the problems, neatly shooting themselves in both feet. YMMV.

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  4. ...and Then There's Physics Avatar

    Tom,
    If skeptics/lukewarmers regard climate change as something that we don’t need to be too concerned about, then why care if the discussion is polarised? You might argue that those who are more alarmed should care, but I suspect most regard there as more important things to do than pander to a minority who don’t regard this as a particularly important issue.

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  5. Thomas Fuller Avatar
    Thomas Fuller

    ATTP, I’m surprised you characterize skeptics/lukewarmers as a minority. When the UN asked 7 million people to prioritize the issues facing them, addressing climate change was last on the list.

    Might even be lower on the list now, in the time of the virus.

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  6. Thomas Fuller Avatar
    Thomas Fuller

    …pander… interesting choice of words…

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  7. geoff chambers Avatar

    ATTP
    We care about it being polarised because we want a discussion. If there were a discussion, we could make it clear that to Drs Metcalfe and Nerlich that we are more heliocentric than not (pace Brad) we believe in cancer treatments, we’ve not gone bad, we accept (mostly) the science in the IPCC reports (just not the model based predictions, calls for action, etc.) You can help start that discussion right now by saying what it is that you think divides us. Is it anything? Or nothing?

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  8. Brad Keyes Avatar

    ATTP:

    Too late for what?

    Too late to save the scientific method from metastatic oreskegenic multiple consensuoma.

    Back to the attribution question (“Who is responsible for having divided society into Have-A-Sense-Of-Proportion and Have-Nots?”)….

    Yes, it is EXCLUSIVELY the fault/doing/achievement of Your Side, not Our Side, that humanity is polarized. Fifty years ago, everyone on earth—even you—had exactly the same thoughts as me on climate: yawn.

    (Well, OK, Stephen Schneider was panicking about climate change… in the sense of global cooling.)

    Then, over the next couple of decades, Your Side began to reject the consensus and congeal into an increasingly shrill and vocal denial movement. This would never have happened if you’d respected [the] science. Instead you sought to replace the scientific method, which works, with the tropicopolitical method, which only “works” in the sarcastic sense in which one might say the IPCC process “works.”

    Rajendra Pachauri himself (the IPCC’s hands-on boss, who’s now in Heck, if you believe in Heaven and Heck) repeatedly acknowledged that His Side was to blame for the societal schism:

    R.K.P.:
    I don’t think the credibility of the IPCC can be dented. If the IPCC wasn’t there, why would anyone be worried about climate change?

    .. I mean, let’s face it, that the whole subject of climate change having become so important is largely driven by the work of the IPCC. If the IPCC wasn’t there, why would anyone be worried about climate change?

    Note: this is from the peer-reviewed journal Science, not some blog.

    Note also: Pachauri’s rather innovative definition of “credibility” in his opening sentence, a variable apparently correlated to how much you’ve caused people to worry.

    Or is that what you mean by ‘credibility’ as well, Ken?

    I’m not asking rhetorically: it’s literally impossible to tell from your writings, so please fill us in.

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  9. Brad Keyes Avatar

    Interestingly, Dr Rice believes in exactly the same hypothesis I hinted at above:

    that skeptical blogs are echo chambers because their opponents “tend to avoid” them, whereas unskeptical blogs are echo chambers because they censor (oh, I’m sorry, “moderate”) THEIR opponents.

    At his own article on the above article, Ken articulates:

    If you run a mainstream climate blog, and don’t want your comment threads to degenerate into a stream of abuse, you end up moderating in ways that will tend to discourage a typical JoNova commenter from commenting.

    Also, if you accept that anthropogenic global warming is real and presents risks that we should be taking seriously, and you don’t enjoy being verbally abused, you’ll tend to avoid commenting on a site like JoNova’s. So, it’s not a surprise that the comment threads end up with like-minded people.

    Proof that even a stopped clock agrees with me twice a day 🙂

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