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It is interesting that Warren makes no mention of the first speaker, Tim Yeo. I wonder why.
Yeo made a number of interesting points.He said he was not particularly sceptical, and had become increasingly convinced by the evidence over the last 20 years. He discussed reasons for growing scepticism, including ‘climate change fatigue’ and the economic crisis. He also said that scepticism was exacerbated by
“quite ridiculous and very ill-advised exaggerated claims by a number of scientists who should have known better”.
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“I get so cross when I hear greens say this is about the future of the planet. It’s nothing of the kind.”LikeLike
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Hi Paul,
Thanks for the comment – Lilley made the most impression on me (maybe as I’ve heard Yeo speak before) but happy to address his points now. Of course, ‘fatigue’ maybe a factor in terms of public interest, especially as it’s an issue that deals with elongated timescales. Brings to mind Downs’ classic paper on the issue attention cycle (pdf) http://www.unc.edu/~fbaum/teaching/…/Downs_Public_Interest_1972.pdf.
My hypothesis would be that any exaggerated claims made in the debate have stemmed from overestimating the importance of scientific evidence in political argument. A sort of “If only we shout a bit louder about the science, we will convince people!” mentality. Not only does this increase the risk of exaggerating your case, it’s also based on a false premise – scientific evidence is one of many ingredients in political argument, not the only one.
I think this was the nub of Yeo’s argument (and chimes with the Hartwell Paper). When he spoke about ‘no regrets’ policies which had co-benefits other than ‘reducing CO2 emissions’ (energy efficiency, fuel security etc), it was just another way of saying that you need more than just the science to win support for a policy.
Regarding his point about the ‘future of the planet’, I guess this is an expression of the Gaia argument, that the planet will continue without human life. I think most people would agree with that. Perhaps ‘planet’ or ‘Earth’ is used by campaigners as a metaphor for ‘human life’, ‘society’. Why ‘save the planet’ or ‘save the Earth’ should be more resonant than ‘save the humans’ is an interesting question in itself…
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Thanks Warren. Personally I found Yeo the most interesting as I hadn’t heard him before and we are so used to hearing arguments from one ‘side’ or the other that it’s refreshing to hear a view that’s less polarised. Re Gaia, interesting comments from Lovelock on the BBC yesterday, also seemingly taking a more balanced view.
Do you or Brigitte know any recent papers on the ‘fatigue’ / ‘crying wolf’ factor, specifically on the climate question?
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, Lovelock was certainly interesting on the radio. As for climate fatigue/crying wolf there was something in Science in 2009 and Scientific American in 2008 I think. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/326/5955/926.short
You might also want to look at a previous blog we wrote:Climategate, media volume and public concerns – what’s the relation?
Hope that helps!
Cheers,
BrigitteLikeLike
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Not ‘crying wolf’ per se but this by Feinberg & Willer on the effect of ‘dire warnings’ and real-world beliefs http://pss.sagepub.com/content/22/1/34.short
Also, Revkin has written a number of blog posts around this issue. This one featuring Richard Betts from Met Office http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/11/a-call-to-rein-in-climate-hype-cold-or-hot/
IPPR’s ‘Warm Words’ report still worth a look, synopsis here http://www.ippr.org/press-releases/111/2500/climate-porn-turning-off-public-from-action
Finally, on polarisation of the argument in the media, there is this from Boykoff & Boykoff http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378003000669 (Public Understanding of Science journal has a few articles on this theme)
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With hindsight – who is more acurately representing the science? the claim that Lilley misinterpreted the data does not stand up… (unless we are to crystal ball gaze into the future, ie temps have slowed/plateaued to date, future is yet to happen)
but as we now have the BBC’s Roger Harrabin sayingthe Met Office new decadal forecast shows no warming for a projected 20 yrs.. why were they crying foul at Lilley..
Of course it may start warming again in the future. but he alone was reporting the data. ie the rate in the last 15 yrs is statistcally zero..
and 4 years ago, Paul Hudson (BBC) reminds us about the slowdown observed then.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/posts/met-office-scale-back-global-w“In November 2009 I wrote about this levelling off in global temperatures, using research available at the time on the Met Office website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2009/12/global-temperature-predictions.shtmlIn it, the Met Office explained that the levelling off of global temperatures that we were experiencing can be expected at time periods of a decade or less, because of the computer models internal climate variability.
But intriguingly, the research ruled out zero trends for time periods of 15 years or more.
The new projection, if correct, would mean there will have been little additional warming for two decades despite rising greenhouse gases.
It’s bound to raise questions about the robustness and reliability of computer simulations that governments around the world are using in order to determine policies aimed at combating global warming.
The Met Office says natural cycles have caused the recent slowdown in warming, including perhaps changes in the suns activity, and ocean currents. “
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We’ll get back to you after today (11 Feb)! (it’s now 6.30 am with a dusting of snow)
We’ll probably have a guest blog sometime soon on modelling.
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Barry, from memory my comment was based on the reaction to Lilley’s comment from some of the climate scientists in the room. Poor choice of words on my part, not least as it implies that ‘the science’ is a homogeneous bulk, rather than containing a range of opinions. And, of course, one may argue whether it’s more appropriate to focus on UK or global temperature trends (or neither!) when deciding on policy.
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